Canadian Child Support Guidelines are Unfair to "Second" Families
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PETITION TO THE HOUSE OF COMMONS IN PARLIAMENT ASSEMBLED
We, the undersigned citizens of Canada, draw the attention of the House to the following:
THAT, the Canadian Child Support Guidelines (C.C.S.Gs) are unfair to the second families of parents who pay child support (payors).
THAT, the guidelines do not recognize the financial needs of any second children a payor may have in his care (in an intact family) when assigning the child support and extra-ordinary amounts to be paid for the first children.
THAT, the formula which calculates how much child support is to be paid contains 2 assumptions, i) that a payor has no other children in his/her care to financially support and ii) that the payor is a bachelor and has minimal expenses.
THAT, the payor often has to pay extra-ordinary expenses, in addition to child support, considerably increasing the amount they are obligated to pay.
THAT, only the income of the payor is used in determining how much child support to pay, and there are no provisions for ensuring the basic living expenses of the payor (and 2nd children) can be met, after child support and extras are paid.
THAT, there is no consideration in the guidelines for the additional expenses payors incur while caring for their children on their access time, above and beyond child support payments to the recipient, causing the payor to pay twice.
THAT, child support payments are based on gross income, the payor pays tax on the child support as if that income stayed in his/her household. The income is tax free to the recipient and his/her taxes are further reduced by dependent child exemptions and the child tax credits. These tax benefits and credits are not available to the payor.
THAT, government benefits assigned to second children, such as the Canadian Child Tax Benefit (CCTB), are based on the payors total income, without deducting the child support payments which directly leave their household. Thus, second children are entitled to lower CCTB, based on the true incomes in their households. Second families may not qualify for other government assistance as their household incomes are deemed higher than they actually are.
THAT, when the custodial parent moves away with the children, the cost of accessing the children lies with the payor. This can amount to thousands of dollars per year on top of child support and extra-ordinary expenses.
THAT, adult children of divorce are entitled (through the C.C.S.Gs) to have their parents contribute to their post-secondary education. If the child remains at the custodial parents home while attending school, the payor may be obligated to pay both child support and post-secondary costs, up to age 26. Second children do not have this right and supporting adult first children in this manner will result in continued financial hardship for the second family.
THAT, when a payor works over-time, or obtains a second job to improve the financial situation of his second family, this income is included in the calculation of child support. After paying increased child support, paying an increased proportion of extra-ordinary expenses, and incurring increased taxes, the second family is often left with little extra.
THAT, second wives are often instructed by judges in family court to return to work in order to support themselves and their subsequent children, losing their rights to be a stay-at-home mum. Many second wives believe that the C.C.S.G. recognize only the right of the first children to have a mother at home until school age, but this is not an option for them.
THAT, second children (in intact families) are not considered at all in the C.C.S.Gs unless the paying parent claims undue hardship. Hardship claims are only accepted when the hardship is undue, and the second family is in extreme peril, such losing their home. Second family concerns are very rarely accepted as a reason to lower child support and extra-expense obligations to the first born.
THAT, these significant inequities highlight the negative financial and psychological implications of belonging to a second family.
THEREFORE, your petitioners call upon Parliament to revise the Canadian Child Support Guidelines so that ALL the children a payor has a moral and legal duty to support (whether from the first, the second or subsequent families, and regardless of whether the family is currently intact or not) are recognized in the Guidelines in such a manner that payors are able to provide equal treatment for all of their children.
(please note: if you would like your MP to read this in Parliament, just print it out and obtain 25 signatures and postal codes from supporters. Ensure the last paragraph "THEREFORE, your petitioners....etc." is copied onto the top of the 2nd page where the signatures are located. This is the required format for a petition to be read in Parliament.)
THANK YOU!
We, the undersigned citizens of Canada, draw the attention of the House to the following:
THAT, the Canadian Child Support Guidelines (C.C.S.Gs) are unfair to the second families of parents who pay child support (payors).
THAT, the guidelines do not recognize the financial needs of any second children a payor may have in his care (in an intact family) when assigning the child support and extra-ordinary amounts to be paid for the first children.
THAT, the formula which calculates how much child support is to be paid contains 2 assumptions, i) that a payor has no other children in his/her care to financially support and ii) that the payor is a bachelor and has minimal expenses.
THAT, the payor often has to pay extra-ordinary expenses, in addition to child support, considerably increasing the amount they are obligated to pay.
THAT, only the income of the payor is used in determining how much child support to pay, and there are no provisions for ensuring the basic living expenses of the payor (and 2nd children) can be met, after child support and extras are paid.
THAT, there is no consideration in the guidelines for the additional expenses payors incur while caring for their children on their access time, above and beyond child support payments to the recipient, causing the payor to pay twice.
THAT, child support payments are based on gross income, the payor pays tax on the child support as if that income stayed in his/her household. The income is tax free to the recipient and his/her taxes are further reduced by dependent child exemptions and the child tax credits. These tax benefits and credits are not available to the payor.
THAT, government benefits assigned to second children, such as the Canadian Child Tax Benefit (CCTB), are based on the payors total income, without deducting the child support payments which directly leave their household. Thus, second children are entitled to lower CCTB, based on the true incomes in their households. Second families may not qualify for other government assistance as their household incomes are deemed higher than they actually are.
THAT, when the custodial parent moves away with the children, the cost of accessing the children lies with the payor. This can amount to thousands of dollars per year on top of child support and extra-ordinary expenses.
THAT, adult children of divorce are entitled (through the C.C.S.Gs) to have their parents contribute to their post-secondary education. If the child remains at the custodial parents home while attending school, the payor may be obligated to pay both child support and post-secondary costs, up to age 26. Second children do not have this right and supporting adult first children in this manner will result in continued financial hardship for the second family.
THAT, when a payor works over-time, or obtains a second job to improve the financial situation of his second family, this income is included in the calculation of child support. After paying increased child support, paying an increased proportion of extra-ordinary expenses, and incurring increased taxes, the second family is often left with little extra.
THAT, second wives are often instructed by judges in family court to return to work in order to support themselves and their subsequent children, losing their rights to be a stay-at-home mum. Many second wives believe that the C.C.S.G. recognize only the right of the first children to have a mother at home until school age, but this is not an option for them.
THAT, second children (in intact families) are not considered at all in the C.C.S.Gs unless the paying parent claims undue hardship. Hardship claims are only accepted when the hardship is undue, and the second family is in extreme peril, such losing their home. Second family concerns are very rarely accepted as a reason to lower child support and extra-expense obligations to the first born.
THAT, these significant inequities highlight the negative financial and psychological implications of belonging to a second family.
THEREFORE, your petitioners call upon Parliament to revise the Canadian Child Support Guidelines so that ALL the children a payor has a moral and legal duty to support (whether from the first, the second or subsequent families, and regardless of whether the family is currently intact or not) are recognized in the Guidelines in such a manner that payors are able to provide equal treatment for all of their children.
(please note: if you would like your MP to read this in Parliament, just print it out and obtain 25 signatures and postal codes from supporters. Ensure the last paragraph "THEREFORE, your petitioners....etc." is copied onto the top of the 2nd page where the signatures are located. This is the required format for a petition to be read in Parliament.)
THANK YOU!
838 Signatures
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Brad Dodd
- Comments
- This should have been done 10 years ago.
- City, Province and Postal Code
- N6K 2T6
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Sara Bridge
- City, Province and Postal Code
- N6K 2T6
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Sandey St-Amand
- City, Province and Postal Code
- E3C 0A4
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Leanne Vandersteen
- City, Province and Postal Code
- Calgary, Alberta T3L 2G4
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Tricia
- Comments
- Our social policy in favour of families and children breaks down abominably when faced with the choice of being fair to all children versus demonizing support payors and making them pay amounts of child support that serve to severely prejudice if not impoverish children of second and subsequent families.
- City, Province and Postal Code
- Calgary, AB, T3K 2J9
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Bill Uens
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Jewel McArthur
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Karen Davenport
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Len Jolley
- City, Province and Postal Code
- ON, L0N 1M0
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Hamdy Sadek
- City, Province and Postal Code
- Aurora, Ontario
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hyphen pearce
- Comments
- For decades now the wealth of families goes to Mothers who have NO accounability to Fathers. Collect outrageous amounts of None taxable incomes. Then alienate the fathers from the children.. Discusting Feminist liberal Social engineering......Time to review and place equal shared parenting as the normal practice. Then there would be no "reward" to take custody of the kiddies.....
- City, Province and Postal Code
- Ajax. Ontario.
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Frank Triolo
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Marie Osborn
- Comments
- there should be one about spousal support too.. it's become ridiculous!
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ken loughran
- Comments
- and also children with different mothers pay more
- City, Province and Postal Code
- niagara falls, ont
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tamra murray
- Comments
- If the amount payable to "support" children is a \% of net income the actual $ amount should be split equaly for all children of the payer
- City, Province and Postal Code
- calgary alberta canada
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Kimberly Judge
- Comments
- The payer supposrt payments should be equally based for 1st and second families and based on after taxes
- City, Province and Postal Code
- Scarborough, ON M1E 2E7
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Joanne Judge
- Comments
- In essence 2nd Families are discriminated against
- City, Province and Postal Code
- Toronto Ontario
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David Beatty
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Magdalena Legat
- Comments
- I am a first wife to a child support payor, unable to obtain a mortgage for a home or provide a normal lifestyle for my family due to child support and extraordinary expenses being paid for a child had with a previous partner.
- City, Province and Postal Code
- Mississauga, Ontario
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TERRY LEAR
- Comments
- OUTRAGEOUS SYSTEM.... DISGUSTING.....
- City, Province and Postal Code
- Toronto.
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Cathy Cain
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Jonathan Helm
- Comments
- We must stop all forms of discrimination in this country!
- City, Province and Postal Code
- Regina, SK, S4N7R8
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Tina Henry
- Comments
- Children (in intact families) who have a parent paying child support to their first families, are discriminated against through the Canadian Child Support Guidelines. This is against the Convention on the Rights of the Child, Article 2.
- City, Province and Postal Code
- Calgary, AB, T2B 5B6
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David Thornton
- City, Province and Postal Code
- Oakville Ont. L6J 6V9
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GARY FLOOD
- Comments
- This truely has to be looked at and revised to ensure fairness
- City, Province and Postal Code
- Hamilton Ontario l8v-2t1
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bharat parmar
- Comments
- I support this and have found the child support guidlines very improper.
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Claire Frazer
- Comments
- This is long, long overdue.
- City, Province and Postal Code
- Regina, SK
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Sherif Sidky
- Comments
- Child Support Guidelines are unfair and should be reviewed and revised. Support payments should be split equally for all children of the payor
- City, Province and Postal Code
- London, Ontario, N6K 1N7
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Edward Helm
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Brianna
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Sonja Yenkana
- Comments
- A Change is desperately needed
- City, Province and Postal Code
- Toronto,ON M1B 5Y3
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Joanne Helm
- City, Province and Postal Code
- Regina, SK
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Kristina Drake
- City, Province and Postal Code
- Ontario
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Glenn Henderson
- City, Province and Postal Code
- North Vancouver, V7J 3S9
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L Birkholz
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Susan Smyth
- Comments
- support payments are too heavily sided for the "Mother"
- City, Province and Postal Code
- Calgary AB T2J 5B6
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Joe Dakin
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Michel Connors
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Yvonne E. Smyth
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Catherine Bridge
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Daryl Sebesta
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Julie Nelson
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Phyllis Proulx
- City, Province and Postal Code
- Didsbury,AB,T0M0W0
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simeon yenkana
- Comments
- В
- City, Province and Postal Code
- ontario
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christopher J Hellicar
- City, Province and Postal Code
- hamilton, on. L9C 6H5
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Julia Grodkiewicz
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Kristin Brand
- City, Province and Postal Code
- Barrie, ON
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Anthony Redhead
- City, Province and Postal Code
- K2G6N8
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Emile Weekes
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YANIN KAMPALA
- Comments
- Second/Third etc.. children are just as important as first. PLEASE BE FAIR CANADA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- City, Province and Postal Code
- CALGARY, ALBERTA
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