XCSoar Validation for OLC

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XCSoar Users:

Your participation is requested in a petition directed at the OLC to expand their Validation process to include XCSoar as a valid software package for posting flights to the OLC. This would not make XCSoar an IGC-approved logger for FAI record or badge flights, but it would enable pilots to submit IGC files from XCSoar to the OLC and receive the blue "V" OLC validation and be included in the daily scores.

Historically, the OLC has approved about a dozen PDA software packages for OLC submission, a process that requires the software vendor add an OLC-approved electronic signature to each IGC file, providing a level of security against tampering with the flight data. The OLC stopped accepting new PDA programs to their validation process in 2005 because they had limited resources and believed enough software products existed.

Our position is that many pilots use XCSoar to post their IGC files on the OLC, but the OLC does not validate the files. To correct this, we want the OLC to expand its validation process to include new PDA programs that are willing to follow the OLC's validation process.

We are asking users of XCSoar to electronically sign this petition which we will forward to the OLC. Please complete the petition by December 1, 2007 so we can send it to the OLC.

Please note that the petition requires that you explain the main reason why OLC validation is important to you personally. Some reasons you might list, but please use your own wording, are:

* The OLC is becoming increasingly popular throughout the soaring community and should be able to validate PDA-created IGC files from popular software packages

* The current version of XCSoar's User Manual has been downloaded over 5,000 times

* The current version of XCSoar has been downloaded over 2,100 times in the past 4 months

* Many pilots do not fly with loggers other than their PDA and post their ICG files to the OLC with "Negative Validation" and are not ranked in the daily score

* Many XCSoar users have requested that XCSoar add OLC validation to the software

* The OLC has validated other PDA software programs in the past

* XCSoar supports in-flight optimization of OLC scores

Thank you for your help.

257 Signatures

  • Robert Dunning
    • Main Reason I want OLC Validation for XCSoar
    • I fly club ships with only a PDA logger and would like to have the OLC to validate these flights
  • John Wharington
    • Main Reason I want OLC Validation for XCSoar
    • XCSoar is very popular, it would be a good tool to support OLC adoption.
    • Additional Reasons
    • Once we have approval, we can build facility into the program to submit IGC files to OLC from the main program.
  • Scott Penrose
    • Main Reason I want OLC Validation for XCSoar
    • I fly only with XCSoar and it is unfair to allow commercial support without considering Open Source projects.
    • Additional Reasons
    • XCSoar is growing and is very popular. It should be embraced and recommended by projects like OLC.
  • Luke Szczepaniak
    • Main Reason I want OLC Validation for XCSoar
    • I fly club gliders and an approved loger is not always available, but i always have my pda which runs XCSoar with me. This past season i have flown a number of flights for which i didn't bother uploading the log to the OLC because i only had the XCSoar generated log and not an approved one. If i XCSoar was validated, i could of uploaded those flights and been scored for them.
  • Sebastian Schrimpff
    • Main Reason I want OLC Validation for XCSoar
    • So that our Club based in Bogota can upload flights without the need to purchase expensive loggers. The resoureces that would go towards the loggers are best invested in e-varios and parachutes
    • Additional Reasons
    • XCSoar is widely used by our club members in Colombia, none of which have a proper logger
  • Markus Graeber
    • Main Reason I want OLC Validation for XCSoar
    • Would be one of the most cost effective ways of participating in the OLC, many recreational glider pilots use XCSoar because no large investment is required.
    • Additional Reasons
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  • John Whitney
    • Main Reason I want OLC Validation for XCSoar
    • Two great things for soaring are XCSoar and the OLC. XCSoar Validation for OLC will make them both even better.
  • Hannu Niemi
    • Main Reason I want OLC Validation for XCSoar
    • It's a significant soaring softare!
    • Additional Reasons
    • As the last resort if everything else fails ;)
  • Markus Gutmann
    • Main Reason I want OLC Validation for XCSoar
    • a lot of pilots in our club fly with pda and xc soar, its a great software.
    • Additional Reasons
    • whe can get more cross country kilometers
  • Fabrizio Curreri
    • Main Reason I want OLC Validation for XCSoar
    • To validate goal flights /daily score, not world record
  • David Salmon
    • Main Reason I want OLC Validation for XCSoar
    • It is unfair to pilots who want to use XCSoar for their flying, not to be able to validate their flights, and could be detrimental to the take up of the program,
    • Additional Reasons
    • The program development is in the spirit of gliding being totally free, and should be encouraged.
  • CECOLIN FRANCESCO
    • Main Reason I want OLC Validation for XCSoar
    • frequent use of XCSOAR and easy recognizion
  • Libralon Luca
    • Main Reason I want OLC Validation for XCSoar
    • Validation for goal flight/daily score, not for world record
  • Andy Smith
    • Main Reason I want OLC Validation for XCSoar
    • as a backup if EW logger fails
    • Additional Reasons
    • this is a step towards making XCSoar used more widely
  • Janos Bauer
    • Main Reason I want OLC Validation for XCSoar
    • I had to move from Soarpilot (OLC valid alrady) to XCSoar and still would like to participate OLC
  • James Kingdon
    • Main Reason I want OLC Validation for XCSoar
    • XCSoar is one of the best PDA soaring packages, and gaining rapidly in popularity.
    • Additional Reasons
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  • Jan Nowack
    • Main Reason I want OLC Validation for XCSoar
    • Do not have an OLC approved logger.
  • Michael Schlotter
    • Main Reason I want OLC Validation for XCSoar
    • Backup in case IGC logger fails
    • Additional Reasons
    • Low-cost option for beginners who don't own an IGC logger
  • Michele Zilli
    • Main Reason I want OLC Validation for XCSoar
    • it is my favourite soaring SW and it's open! (i.e. free!)
  • Mike Carris
    • Main Reason I want OLC Validation for XCSoar
    • It is a great program (perhaps the most advanced and feature rich, yet easy to use) that is not sold for profit and is an excellent entery into OLC without the high costs of approved dattaloggers.
    • Additional Reasons
    • Also ideal as a backup source while ones dattalogger is being calibrated or in the shop for repairs
  • Nick Woods
    • Main Reason I want OLC Validation for XCSoar
    • because it is good and free
  • Zoran Milicic
    • Main Reason I want OLC Validation for XCSoar
    • becouse it is good and free
  • Sasa Mihajlovic
    • Main Reason I want OLC Validation for XCSoar
    • XCSoar is one of the best PDA soaring packages.
    • Additional Reasons
    • I fly club gliders and an approved loger is not always available, but i always have my pda which runs XCSoar with me.
  • David Swanson
    • Main Reason I want OLC Validation for XCSoar
    • I use XCSoar for flights and would like to participate in the OLC
  • Erich Wittstock
    • Main Reason I want OLC Validation for XCSoar
    • I use xc-soar when flying so I would like to be able to use it as OLC validated logger
    • Additional Reasons
    • I am a strong supporter of the open source philosophy - xc-soar is a great program
  • Mike Hostage
    • Main Reason I want OLC Validation for XCSoar
    • My primary flying sofware
  • John Shipley
    • Main Reason I want OLC Validation for XCSoar
    • gliding flight validation & flight claim submission
    • Additional Reasons
    • to avoid duplication of hardware & added flight preparation
  • BOISSEL
    • Main Reason I want OLC Validation for XCSoar
    • Lot of Pilots use OLC and more an more use XCSoar
  • Ian Easson
    • Main Reason I want OLC Validation for XCSoar
    • The OLC is an increasingly important comp and we have more pilots using XCSOAR so, why not?
  • Simon Taylor
    • Main Reason I want OLC Validation for XCSoar
    • Backup for approved logger
    • Additional Reasons
    • XCSoar is essential for cash-strapped individuals
  • Howard Joseph
    • Main Reason I want OLC Validation for XCSoar
    • My only easy method for uploading traces.
    • Additional Reasons
    • Please!
  • Lubomir Vano
    • Main Reason I want OLC Validation for XCSoar
    • PDA with XCSoar is the only logger on board on some of my flights.
  • Todd Sandercock
    • Main Reason I want OLC Validation for XCSoar
    • I use xcsoar for my flight traces and i want to be able to use it for OLC
  • Wayne Carter
    • Main Reason I want OLC Validation for XCSoar
    • to minimise gadgets in the club ship cockpit
    • Additional Reasons
    • we are all on the same team, guys, XC gliding!
  • john timmis
    • Main Reason I want OLC Validation for XCSoar
    • I always have XCsoar in the cockpit
  • David Lawley
    • Main Reason I want OLC Validation for XCSoar
    • So I can enter the OLC, using free software, not expensive commercail product
    • Additional Reasons
    • Large number of XCSoar users, at least 2,000 of us
  • Noel Wade
    • Main Reason I want OLC Validation for XCSoar
    • To post and review flights with fellow club members
    • Additional Reasons
    • В
  • Robert Bradley
    • Main Reason I want OLC Validation for XCSoar
    • So I can help my club get to be No 1 in the world
  • Yannick Burgevin
    • Main Reason I want OLC Validation for XCSoar
    • I am using XCSoar for my flight and want them to be validated in OLC
  • Dennis Hipperson
    • Main Reason I want OLC Validation for XCSoar
    • So I can use XCSoar for the OLC tasks
  • Dmitry Chichkov
    • Main Reason I want OLC Validation for XCSoar
    • I use it for nav/log/weather.
  • Christopher Knapp
    • Main Reason I want OLC Validation for XCSoar
    • x country and compatition validation
  • Paul Harris, Jr.
    • Main Reason I want OLC Validation for XCSoar
    • To submit IGC files from XCSoar to the OLC and receive the blue "V" OLC validation and be included in the daily scores.
  • Kenneth Flaton
    • Main Reason I want OLC Validation for XCSoar
    • Limited availability of OLC validated solutions within my club has made badge advancement too difficult to deal with.
    • Additional Reasons
    • XCSoar is an excellent, low cost flight computer solution. Validation would raise its usefulness to a different level.
  • Judith Reibel
    • Main Reason I want OLC Validation for XCSoar
    • The OLC is becoming increasingly popular throughout the soaring community and should be able to validate PDA-created IGC files from popular software packages
    • Additional Reasons
    • Many XCSoar users have requested that XCSoar add OLC validation to the software
  • Zeke Flaton
    • Main Reason I want OLC Validation for XCSoar
    • I am a private pilot for Gliders, and this program is very helpful in planning trips, in addition to adjusting for unexpected conditions in the air.
  • Tibor
    • Main Reason I want OLC Validation for XCSoar
    • XCSoar became popular and it's not fair its users can't compete in OLC
    • Additional Reasons
    • В
  • Andrzej Kobus
    • Main Reason I want OLC Validation for XCSoar
    • I want to use it for logging my flights
  • Eric Frere
    • Main Reason I want OLC Validation for XCSoar
    • To use XCSoar in OLC flights
  • Jeff Dorwart
    • Main Reason I want OLC Validation for XCSoar
    • I use XCSoar and it is much simpler to transfer files than my logger.
    • Additional Reasons
    • В