Make Irish Optional

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People that found that Irish should be a optional subject after Junior Cert.

'Recently the abolition of compulsory Irish has been discussed. In 2005 Enda Kenny, leader of Ireland's main opposition party, Fine Gael, called for the language to be made an optional subject in the last two years of secondary school. Mr Kenny, despite being a fluent speaker himself (and a teacher), stated that he believed that compulsory Irish has done the language more harm than good.'

'In November 2005, Kenny called for the abolishment of compulsory Irish for the Leaving Certificate examinations, a move against one of the State's oldest shibboleths. This was opposed by all the major Irish language organisations.[3] In March 2006 Kenny was elected Vice-President of the European People's Party (EPP), the largest European political group to which Fine Gael is affiliated.[4] In his speech to the EPP he stated that Fine Gael would be in Government within 2 years.' --Wiki

Now after reading these extracts we can see that Enda Kenny respects our view of Irish. He knows that by forcing us to study Irish that we would be losing time on all the other subjects (the ones we use in our job/college years). Studying I know, for me is something I use my time to studying subjects that help.

I think Irish a hard subject and its time consuming but I don't see why its mandatory, why should we, the students, be forced to learn a subject that won't help us in our future occupations?

I know that Irish is the only thing that symbolizes us as a Ireland but I don't see why and you might as well, this burden is placed on us. Its fine and good to express our individuality as Irish people but in the real world, if theres a subject holding ANY of us back, the next thing is to drop it and find something in our ability or something worth working hard for.

'In March 2007, the Minister for Education, Mary Hanafin, announced that more focus would be devoted to the spoken language, and that from 2012, the percentage of marks available in the Leaving Certificate Irish exam would increase from 25\% to 40\% for the oral component.[40] This increased emphasis on the oral component of the Irish examinations is likely to change the way Irish is examined.' -- Wiki

Mary Hanafin our Minister for Education, has increased oral component scores. Now, before I say anything, do you thing this is fair? Do you remember taking a survey in school agreeing to this? Mary Hanafin has done this and we had no say, now lets compare this to Enda Kenny.

Enda Kenny suggested to make Irish optional after J.C, but was thrown down by Irish organizations, those Irish organizations only care about there jobs and don't try to share our views as it isn't profitable.

Now, Mary Hanafin, suddenly came out in 2007 and announced that test scores for oral Irish goes up by 15\%, are you surprised no Irish organizations opposed to this? Its profitable for them and so it works. They to take a look at both sides and didn't even ask the people taking the exams if they wanted the change, profit (where do you go if you want to understand Irish more?).

Enda Kenny is fluent in Irish yet suggested the idea of making it optional thinking that it does more harm than good, seeing our view and the Irish organization view.

Now for the ending statement,
All people who have read this let me ask you this, 'Do you think its fair that Enda Kenny's view was striked down by Irish organizations without consulting student view? Do you think its fair that Mary Hanafin announces oral scores go up by 15\% out of the blue in 2007 without consulting student view?'

If you read all this and agree with my views, help me make these Irish organizations acknowledge our view!

Thank you

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  • Trieu Nguyen
  • Darragh Barron
  • Ludivine
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    • Irish being compulsory is holding both the people and the language back. This is proposterous and needs to stop.
  • Gary Swan
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    • I totally agree with the above article - Forcing Irish as a second language, which is foreign to most students, is just illogical.
  • adam turner
  • Conor Mulligan
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    • I believe that Irish is now not usefull enough to stay an exam subject and I think it should be made optional rather than compulsory
  • Mark Keogh
    • Comments
    • Please make it optional !
  • brian gaynor
    • Comments
    • bane of my existence
  • john hayforth
  • Aaron Kavanagh
    • Comments
    • I don't feel that Irish people should be forced to learn a language they won't ever use. All it will do is turn people off Irish culture and fail their Leaving Cert.
  • Conor fLynn
    • Comments
    • Not liking it
  • james patrick cronin
  • Joe
  • elizabeth martin
  • Mairйad Nн Cheallaigh (BБC)
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    • Nн fйidir й seo a dheanamh!!! Bheadh an teanga marbh... ba cheart go n-aistreoidh siad an cъrsa, ach mar бbhair roghnach, beidh sй crнochnaithe. Tнr gan teanga, tнr gan anam!!!
  • RUTH HOURIGAN
    • Comments
    • ONE VOTE LOST
  • Aengus Fallon
  • Richard McNally
  • Conor Obrien
    • Comments
    • luv FG
  • Kevin Sheedy
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    • I think we should respect a student's right of self-determination. I think it is wrong for one group of society to force their values on anyone else.
  • allison bosonnet
  • Yourworstnightmare
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    • Hahahahaha we can't be proud of anything anymore after what's happened lol fools
  • Mairead Kerwin
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    • Good idea
  • Tom Neville
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    • Personal Freedom is a good thing! Compulsory Irish has not worked!
  • Mark Cullen
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    • As someone who endured Irish classes all the way through school, I feel it has benefited me little, apart from understanding the Sharon ni Bheolain Carlsberg ad.
  • Hannah
  • Andrew Morrow
  • John Kennedy
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    • I'm a former teacher of Irish. It hasn't worked and is costing an arm and a leg; time to call it a day!
  • Feljin Jose
    • Comments
    • Feljin_j@yahoo.ie
  • Michael Ennis
  • Mark Berney
  • Annelies Beyers
  • Conor McErlean
    • Comments
    • Those in favour of forcing the Irish lanuage on people for the Leaving Cert are, in my opinion, facists.
  • Aran
  • Ingrid McLaughlin
    • Comments
    • its taking time which should be used on subjects that are global, ie used everywhere
  • Amy Mclaughlin
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    • Only benificial on some jobs within Ireland, ie teaching. we should have a choice
  • Stuart McLaughlin
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    • I'll never use it outside of school like others, give the option
  • Thomas McLaughlin
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    • I spent years of hell trying to learn, finally made excempt and all other studies have dramatically improved. i say get rid of it full stop.
  • valerie
  • Sarah Vincent
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    • I've never used it since leaving school, total waste of time
  • David Herity