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We call upon Paramount Pictures to restore the Star Trek Timeline and restore Vulcan. The latest film negates so much of what we love.
Why?
I love Star Trek always have and always will HOWEVER - This new film is not Star Trek, or at best it is a non - canon film. I have seen it twice and I am still devastated by it. The events that negated so much of Trek Lore or continuity.
Firstly, anyone who loves the series would know that Gene Roddenberry would not have approved of Vulcan being destroyed. Vulcan is the soul of the Star Trek universe. This new timeline (if it is accepted) negates 40 years of continuity.
The attacks on Rick Berman are a joke. He worked with Gene on the development of the TGN and Gene knew of the plans for Deep Space 9. Let alone hours of fantastic television. Who could forget the emotion of The Visitor.
He led a team that gave us hours of the best Trek. If in doubt watch again Generations and First Contact.
Secondly, this new film has so many links to Star Wars I am surprised that George Lucas hasn't sued:
Young Kirk / Anakin in car / pod racer.
Bar scenes - New Hope
Snow attacks - Hoth monster / Kirk monster.
Spock / Yoda links
Battle scenes - Return Jedi. etc
I just hope that people who love Star Trek can retake the franchise and bring it back to watch Gene imagined. Not just a film that rips of star wars.
In terms of the timeline. There is only one true timeline in Star Trek. It has been manipulated on many occasions, but always corrected, in accordance with the temporal accords etc. Some fans are confusing the mirror universe which is different. If we accept this new film as canon it DOES wipe out everything we know. Why do that? Why destroy things that are loved by many for no reason?
For example see these examples from
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Alternate_timeline
In 2344, the USS Enterprise-C responded to a distress call from a Klingon outpost on Narendra III, which was under attack by Romulan forces. In the "real" timeline the Enterprise saved the outpost and strengthened relations between the Federation and the Klingons. However, during the battle with the Romulans a Temporal rift opened and the Enterprise, badly damaged and disoriented, traveled to 2366, in the presence of its successor, the USS Enterprise-D. Because the Enterprise-C was not there to save the outpost it was destroyed and the Klingons declared war on the Federation. For the next 22 years, the two powers engaged in a bitter war that cost 40 billion lives and left the Federation on the brink of defeat. In this timeline, Tasha Yar was still alive and serving as tactical officer aboard the Enterprise-D in 2366.
Guinan began to feel the change in time as "not right". She advised Captain Picard of the changes and eventually convinced him to send the Enterprise-C back through the rift. Yar discovered through Guinan that she died in the other timeline and felt that she could help aboard the Enterprise-C rather than where she felt she didn't belong. The Klingons attacked the two ships as the Enterprise-C flew toward the rift, while the Enterprise-D defended her. The Enterprise-D was likely destroyed by the Klingons, but the Enterprise-C made it through the rift and restored the timeline, erasing the war from history. (TNG: "Yesterday's Enterprise")
However, during the battle with the Romulans, the Enterprise-C was forced to surrender and prisoners, including the alternate Yar, were taken. Yar had a child with a Romulan and was later executed. The child, Sela, became a commander in the Romulan military and encountered the Enterprise-D several times. (TNG: "The Mind's Eye", "Redemption", "Redemption II", "Unification I", "Unification II")
In Enterprise we see something happen that is similar to that of Vulcan.
The effect of a Delphic Expanse anomaly leaves Archer unable to form any new long-term memories. Twelve years later, he wakes up one morning and is stunned to learn the outcome of the Human-Xindi conflict, including the loss of Earth, and the near-annihilation of the Human race. Jonathan Archer wakes in his quarters in the midst of battle. He rushes to the bridge only to see Earth destroyed by the Xindi superweapon. The story restores the timeline.
Together Trek fans can have the Best of both Worlds a new trek for new fans and keep the faith we all those fans that kept the dream alive the timeline can be restored.
Live Long and Prosper
Anthony O'Leary
anthonyoleary@bigpond.com
Why?
I love Star Trek always have and always will HOWEVER - This new film is not Star Trek, or at best it is a non - canon film. I have seen it twice and I am still devastated by it. The events that negated so much of Trek Lore or continuity.
Firstly, anyone who loves the series would know that Gene Roddenberry would not have approved of Vulcan being destroyed. Vulcan is the soul of the Star Trek universe. This new timeline (if it is accepted) negates 40 years of continuity.
The attacks on Rick Berman are a joke. He worked with Gene on the development of the TGN and Gene knew of the plans for Deep Space 9. Let alone hours of fantastic television. Who could forget the emotion of The Visitor.
He led a team that gave us hours of the best Trek. If in doubt watch again Generations and First Contact.
Secondly, this new film has so many links to Star Wars I am surprised that George Lucas hasn't sued:
Young Kirk / Anakin in car / pod racer.
Bar scenes - New Hope
Snow attacks - Hoth monster / Kirk monster.
Spock / Yoda links
Battle scenes - Return Jedi. etc
I just hope that people who love Star Trek can retake the franchise and bring it back to watch Gene imagined. Not just a film that rips of star wars.
In terms of the timeline. There is only one true timeline in Star Trek. It has been manipulated on many occasions, but always corrected, in accordance with the temporal accords etc. Some fans are confusing the mirror universe which is different. If we accept this new film as canon it DOES wipe out everything we know. Why do that? Why destroy things that are loved by many for no reason?
For example see these examples from
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Alternate_timeline
In 2344, the USS Enterprise-C responded to a distress call from a Klingon outpost on Narendra III, which was under attack by Romulan forces. In the "real" timeline the Enterprise saved the outpost and strengthened relations between the Federation and the Klingons. However, during the battle with the Romulans a Temporal rift opened and the Enterprise, badly damaged and disoriented, traveled to 2366, in the presence of its successor, the USS Enterprise-D. Because the Enterprise-C was not there to save the outpost it was destroyed and the Klingons declared war on the Federation. For the next 22 years, the two powers engaged in a bitter war that cost 40 billion lives and left the Federation on the brink of defeat. In this timeline, Tasha Yar was still alive and serving as tactical officer aboard the Enterprise-D in 2366.
Guinan began to feel the change in time as "not right". She advised Captain Picard of the changes and eventually convinced him to send the Enterprise-C back through the rift. Yar discovered through Guinan that she died in the other timeline and felt that she could help aboard the Enterprise-C rather than where she felt she didn't belong. The Klingons attacked the two ships as the Enterprise-C flew toward the rift, while the Enterprise-D defended her. The Enterprise-D was likely destroyed by the Klingons, but the Enterprise-C made it through the rift and restored the timeline, erasing the war from history. (TNG: "Yesterday's Enterprise")
However, during the battle with the Romulans, the Enterprise-C was forced to surrender and prisoners, including the alternate Yar, were taken. Yar had a child with a Romulan and was later executed. The child, Sela, became a commander in the Romulan military and encountered the Enterprise-D several times. (TNG: "The Mind's Eye", "Redemption", "Redemption II", "Unification I", "Unification II")
In Enterprise we see something happen that is similar to that of Vulcan.
The effect of a Delphic Expanse anomaly leaves Archer unable to form any new long-term memories. Twelve years later, he wakes up one morning and is stunned to learn the outcome of the Human-Xindi conflict, including the loss of Earth, and the near-annihilation of the Human race. Jonathan Archer wakes in his quarters in the midst of battle. He rushes to the bridge only to see Earth destroyed by the Xindi superweapon. The story restores the timeline.
Together Trek fans can have the Best of both Worlds a new trek for new fans and keep the faith we all those fans that kept the dream alive the timeline can be restored.
Live Long and Prosper
Anthony O'Leary
anthonyoleary@bigpond.com
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Luke Smale
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- Plot does matter
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Max
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- JJ Abrams is a cheap HACK.
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Sarama Tonetto
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- Star trek needs Vulcan!
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Mike Phillips
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- The new Star Trek film was a big spit into the face of the franchise and the fans. A total disrespect to Gene Roddenberry. It may have been fun at times but Star Trek is supposed to be more then that. The movie seems to think as long as things blow up and sex and cheap laughs are present people show up in droves. Apparently that's true. No longer does a film need to carry any dramatic weight, social relevance, or a cleverly constructed narrative to be a hit. For the most part the film is highly lacking in originality both in it's writing and in it's direction. The creative forces behind this film twist Star Trek around into a Star Wars wannabe to make it relevant to them seeing as how they themselves admitted that they are Star Wars geeks. JJ Abrams should a total disregard for the hear and soul of the series. Destroying Vulcan seriously felt like he was laughing at the fans or something. I think most fans will agree that was the biggest disservice imaginable.
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Jack
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- Bring back Star Trek CANON!
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Donny
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- Although I enjoyed the 11th "Star Trek" motion picture, I ask the people at Paramount Pictures, CBS, J.J. Abrams and Bad Robot Productions with all respect for the next "Star Trek" motion picture that is produced by Paramount Pictures, Spyglass Entertainment, CBS Films and Bad Robot Productions--whether it will made for movie houses worldwide or just home enteertainment (DVD and Blu-ray) market--and/or the next "Star Trek" television series that is the first to be produced by CBS Television Studios--whether it will be an hour-long primetime series made for either NBC, CBS or the CW that is co-produced by Bad Robot Productions, or otherwise a half-hour kid-friendly animated series made for either Nickelodeon or The CW4Kids to take place at any prime post-"Nemesis" timeline.
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paul
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- restore the timeline in another movie, using the temporal police that pop up in voyager
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Elizabeth Mcgann
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- Restore Vulcan is the only logical thing to do.
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kenta petersen
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Dennis
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Emil Tuomisto
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- How could they destroy Vulcan in the new movie? I got upset too, and with some sort of "red matter"... Screw that, they should have called it Omega after that Voyager episode if anything.
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Niklas Berg
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Per Saaw
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Jim
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- Please blow up more planets in the next film...Cardassia, Bajor, Kronos and the Borg Homeworld. Thans in advance.
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Mr Vulcan
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- I hate NuTrek. It was a good movie, but where will Vulcan hotties like TPol grow up in the future?
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Nero
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- I am sorry I have caused you so much pain.
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The Ghost of Gene
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- I like Vulcan. Please dont blow it up.
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Angie gladchuk
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Angie gladchuk
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Alexander Gmitrovic
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- this disaster of a movie, which clearly negates everything that the entire ST Universe was based on, would make Gene Roddenberry turn in his grave
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christer karlsson
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- Live Long And Prosper
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Peter Southgate
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- Bring back intelligent Star Trek, Paramount - restore Gene's vision
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Markus Daghall
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- No more time travels!
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Jay
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Robert
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- I don't want to be in this timeline!
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aaron
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- save star trek
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donald shaffer
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donald shaffer
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Inzjana
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- Beam me up Scotty, there is no intelligent life at Paramount.
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Beau Lewis
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Adrian East
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- What a crock. Delete this movie and start again. The actors were cast well and was the only redeeming feature.
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Tony Wenzel
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- The next movie should attempt to repair this.
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Mike
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- Search for Spock and Voyage home never happened now!
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Joseph DePrato
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jason kelly
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Aitor Hernandez
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- No more Abrams
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Alfred Moragas Segura
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Aritz
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Crusher
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- Star Trek XI Sucked!!!
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Luis
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Pepe
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Chris Barry
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Josй Ramуn Marco
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- Sucks
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Vicente Moreno
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Isabel
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- Save Vulcan!!
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Ramon
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- save the original Star Trek
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Katharine
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Ramon
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- Original Star Trek Forever
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Jose Perez
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- From Spain: Larga vida y Prosperidad
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